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Dirk Lomas Smith's avatar

>Clearly that is at odds with the public narrative.

Fuck off with this talk about narratives. Seriously, just fuck off. I hate how enlightened you are about being anti-mandate—just come out and say it.

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Dirk Lomas Smith's avatar

You're not as above this as you think you are.

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So, no, I will not stop talking about narratives because that is exactly what is happening. There's more than 100 hours of live streaming of these events online over many hours. I've watched at least 10 hours myself, including an enormous number of interviews with people. The protestors have nothing to do with white supremacy, or Nazi flags, or Confederate flags, or anything like that, yet that is what has been getting press.

You are clearly filled with hate and rage, and you've provided no counter-evidence. You hate that I keep showing the evidence. I show exactly what the science says, what NACI says, what Health Canada says, what the World Health Organization says, and even what the vaccine manufacturers say in their monographs. That is how reason and evidence works.

The fact that you are so aggravated and incredulous and lack any counter-evidence or even criticism of what these organizations says appears to me to be because you haven't come to terms with the fact that you have been misled. This is common in ingroup/outgroup psychology, the defense of "our" side to "attacks" from "their" side, despite all evidence to the contrary.

This is common psychology as is perhaps this exacerbation of "us vs them" psychology is exactly what leads to political and press-driven propaganda, and why people believe. As the various sayings go, it is easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.

I'm wide open to be wrong. I even originally bought the narrative, but then I recognized the demagoguery of the last election campaign, and as a scientist and risk assessor who works with microbiologists I recognized the claims didn't add up with what I knew. So I read all of the federal government material on it.

OK, so if I'm not "as above this" as I think I am, then it is very easy to take me down. Just read the linked material, point out where I'm wrong in what they say, or that they are wrong in what they say, and provide the scientific evidence that supports what you say or in general that such mandates and passports is the best way through this. Because I can't find that evidence and what it does say is the opposite.

Or, I could just give it all up and note some angry person on the internet with no evidence is angry with me for having all of the evidence.

I'm not yelling at anyone. I'm not angry and any commenters, not even you. I understand that most people just don't read what the science says. I understand it is hard to accept that you might be wrong about things. It doesn't feel good to me either, but I was wrong before, I read the material, and now I have a position based on all of that evidence.

Please, provide the links to the Government of Canada scientific reports, analyses, or whatever sources you can find that support these mandates and passports. Or whatever links criticize the "informed consent" recommended by NACI, Health Canada, and vaccine manufacturers, or that criticize the WHO and health policy orgs like the Nuffield Council on Bioethics. I welcome all of those links to such analyses and reports. I just haven't seen any yet and nobody will provide them.

If you are so sure they are all wrong, and I'm wrong, then please just provide the links to the sources that convinced you we're all wrong and you are right.

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